doing a coat of oil and then a coat of water or vice versa). After youâve finished sanding, remove the plastic film off your windows, vents and ⦠I am keeping my fingers crossed and hoping it comes out good without too much pink. It costs more than Bona Mega, but it’s worth it as it looks better, lasts longer and amberizes less. Well first, the stain is a combination of ebony and white wash. We test different levels until we find the right level of gray that our customer prefers â it could be dark gray, light gray or somewhere in the middle. It sounds like the application of it may be the issue. This will have an impact on how the grain looks and it’s hard to predict which way you’ll prefer until you see it. May throw aged barrel in the mix! Do you think we could get away with duraseal medium-brown and then add the gray ratios you laid out? Title: grey stain for hardwood floors impressionnant oak meet special Description: oak hardwood floors products grey stain for hardwood floors beau light grey hardwoodr stainrs in bedroom wood woodenring living room Via: southcentralhispanic.org he sanded my white oak floors to the bare original conditon, is there alight stain color you can possibly recommend. Dave – You have to combine the mix in a different can. Do you think this si a good idea. We started off by exploring three stain mixes all by miniwax. If your contractor doesn’t feel comfortable mixing, I’d recommend you stay away from gray. Usually my guys can install 1000 sf in a day, so installation should have only been a few days. Of course going darker will cover up the red better, so it is a trade off. Your link is more expensive so trying to see what is different. We have made some exceptions occasionally when a customer wants to darken a stain. First, I will tell you that red oak floors come out better if you bleach them first. Required fields are marked *. We want to do a lighter gray floor. The coverage is according to package is 500sf, but we have found the actual coverage is more like 400sf per gallon (or can). I am installing brand new hardwood flooring and don’t know where to go to buy it. White oak is preferred over red oak for gray stain. If you are doing this yourself, you can buy both…and try both to see which you prefer. It’s not the best for wood, especially if it’s not applied properly. Jul 15, 2014 - Refinish hardwood floors gray in Westchester., Believe it or not, gray hardwood flooring is in style! I have not had wood floors before but I’m wondering about the “roughness” is some spots of the floor. How long to dry? 2. The higher number is white and the lower number is ebony. There is no right or wrong answer. Next question I did two coats of Poly with the one gallon of traffic HD in satin. Thanks for the help. On red oak, you’ll probably want to do a mid to darker gray to hide the red undertones. Hi Lisa. The stain is supposed to penetrate hardwood. I am having a white oak piece of furniture made. I haven’t researched this yet. If they are old pine, they may need to sand, add conditioner, then apply stain. I would wait at least 8 hrs before walking on floor (w/ socks), but 24 hrs is even better. Instead, your contractor should make a custom blend of ebony and white. Wow, amazing blog that I found at the right time! My husband and I are currently in the middle of remodeling our downstairs. It’s often better to add an extra coat of water based poly, too for a more durable finish. It’s better to get the stain to the correct shade before if you can. You’ll just need to find a color you like. Drill Brushes and Floor Sander: How to Refinish a Hardwood Floor. Hi great article. So, if you were to try this, I would also test with dark walnut. despite all of the work involved letting wood dry, putting in the tongue and groove nailing it down sanding and more sanding filling a few gaps and more sanding , then a stain prep and then the bona grey stain and finally first coat of bona traffic hd . (I’m just using that as an example to describe the roughness). Could you share the stain ratios for that picture? Sorry, yes I meant Red Oak wood floors. I’ve done a ton of research but was more or so a month ago and I forgot all the small details. From NY -> TX. It was not attractive at all. Which are the best brands of polyurethane, Recommended cleaning products and accessories to maintain floors and reduce scratches, https://theflooringgirl.com/hardwood-flooring/which-are-the-best-polyurethane-brands-for-floors-which-do-i-recommend.html, https://theflooringgirl.com/hardwood-flooring/minwax-vs-duraseal-stain-better-hardwood-floors.html, https://www.amazon.com/Dura-Seal-Penetrating-Finish-Quick/dp/B002EDRXW4, https://www.bona.com/en-US/Bona-Professional/Products/Coatings/Stains/Bona-DriFast-Stain/, https://www.amazon.com/DS-QC-EBONY-131-G/dp/B00ISXFBRS/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1516804243&sr=8-10&keywords=duraseal+stain, California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) Policy. It’s perfect if you’re staining your floors gray, or white, or just going for a natural super clean look. You need to speak to your flooring guy (before poly is applied) to see why it looks different. This gives the wood a unique patina and texture. The pink tones would be about the same. Coffee brown or dark walnut mixed with one of your light gray ratios (dura ebony and bona white)? These 2 colors make gray…and then it’s just about how dark (or light) the gray is. Claire – You can certainly try it with medium brown. And, medium brown doesn’t look good…it comes out too red, especially on red oak. They only have the water based. I edited this photo to turn down the highlights so you could see the color and grain better. 7. No, you generally do not and shouldn’t add stain to the poly. Nick – thanks so much. You should use Bona Traffic HD. This prevents liquids from penetrating; oiled floors don’t have that same level of protection. I’ll go pick up another jug tomorrow and be done with it! Subscriber Exclusive Offer Privacy Policy. I don’t want to go so dark that we have dust-showing issues, but need a bit on the darker side of medium to contrast the cabs. They will come back tomorrow and put on a 3rd and 4th I believe. I keep checking for it every couple of months. You are limited to... 3. I had a question as to how to proceed. Any recommendations?? If you have pets that may get the floors wet (from going in/out when it rains, water dishes or accidents), you may want to avoid this option. HI Flooring Girl, I so glad to stumble on your blog. And, if the ability to spot treat is very important to you, then that is an added bonus. The only way youâll know if you like a color â or donât â is to take a sample ⦠A much easier and safer option is to do a darker color. Your email address will not be published. I really appreciate your input! Brazilian Walnut), that is a different story. 6. I have an old hardwood floor but I don’t know the type of wood. Polyurethane, on the other hand, provides a protective layer that rests on top of the wood. But, after that ratio was figured out, it was straight forward. Ebony I can find just not the white. Is there a type of bleach or process that needs to be done to ensure that the floors don’t become damaged from the bleach? You would want to mix stains using ebony and white for the gray and then some form of brown e.g. And we are finally putting in wood flooring, which we’ve always wanted. We’ll definitely try dark walnut, but curious if you prefer coffee brown to medium brown for red oak to lessen the red? Second, we use Bona white rather than country white as the white is more opaque. These items cost more than the typical hardwood cleaners, but at least you can make repairs as scratches occur. But, I would look to see what species you have. He was said to be done today and we went in and the whole floor turned yellow! If you haven’t done it before, I would hire a professional. Not sure how well it will work on this wood and whether there will be any reactions with the oils in the wood. Your true missing ingredient is the ebony. I hired a contractor for the flooring of my whole place and its taken a month to finally stain freshly purchased oak wood to the shade of gray I’ve wanted. Or else replace the wood and go for White Oak or Maple. It is a bit of an art. Hi Flooring Girl! Talk to your flooring guy. For the stain, this is trickier, and you’re going to need to mix and experiment until you get the color you prefer. I guess most of my questions are in the buffing/screening process. Superior wood stain saves time, energy and provides a great value. When I bought and installed the floors they were pre-finished with an espresso brown color. My advice to you is stay away from those. You need to sand the floors and that will remove all the dark brown. Oh and it shouldn’t matter if there if you have select grade or No 1. Also how much square footage would this cover? And, don’t use the cheaper poly…it won’t last as long. Thanks for the quick response. They are too watery and do not come out well. Second, no, I would never use Minwax for this. In the preliminary stages of picking a color, we have to mix and blend stains to attain the perfect color. one with water pop one without. Unlike polyurethane, the oils penetrate into the wood. And, if you’re looking for this particular floor (which is pre-finished) – Shaw Castlewood Hearth, you can buy it here. As a homeowner, you can do the repair yourself, and you don’t need to sand and refinish. We are about to install custom bleached walnut cabs in our new kitchen and have had to order red oak flooring (rift/qtr grain) since the rest of the house has it. Terry – No, you don’t. Use a bristle attachment on a vacuum to remove all of the dust. Tara – It’s very challenging to stain any of the exotics gray, due to the nature of the color, color variation and oils in these woods. Gray is very difficult to achieve, especially on red oak and even most professionals have difficulty with this. But, if you’re asking can you do those browns with white, I suppose you could, but it won’t be gray…it will be more of a beige. I would avoid both minwax classic gray as well as duraseal’s classic gray. I used Minwax Charcoal Gray and covered a small area. If you see this and have any ideas, I’d be very grateful! They are especially popular in NYC. Is there something different for the stairs? And, since this is more expensive than your typical refinishing job, you might as well make it last longer so you can postpone the need to refinish your floors again. The highest grit you should use before the stain is 100. I’m going to give this a try in a couple of weeks. I have a hunch you will probably need to have floors fully sanded and refinished. While trends like linoleum and shag carpet (eek) went out of style as quickly as they came into it, hardwood flooring hasâfor centuriesâbeen a failsafe choice for any and every aesthetic. My dining table is made of maple (I think), and it turned out a true grey. I always love your informative articles Debbie. Be careful w/ the poly you use. Want to see the floor cleaning products I recommend? 5. These may give you indications as to the species of wood you have. I hope that helps. Thank you so much for your response. When the stain is rubbed into the wood, the color is absorbed more deeply along the scratch lines than in the surrounding wood. Wait how long to dry before 2nd coat? they both look very nice. He is suggesting re-sanding and bleaching the floors until they get to a more uniform base and then re-staining (to achieve a more uniform gray look). If you do bleach (and I do NOT recommend you bleach), then yes, you’d need to carefully tape off the walnut. We’ve done this a few times…and sometimes, it may take 10 or more mixes. These same stains will look brown on oak, but gray on maple. The biggest disadvantage is that they can be more difficult to maintain. Hi there I’ve been following your site and blog on the gray washed floors and I’m just about ready to have the contractor handle the redwood floors. Good news is this is the easy part. And what kind of poly would you use? It is VERY important to remember the ratio of Country White to Ebony or which ever color stains you blend. Start with lighter gray (e.g. Is it the white on this site? Because pine is soft wood, it is perfect for staining as the stain soaks into the timber creating a rich and beautiful appearance of the new colour. Weâll touch on Rubio and Loba in another blog post. It sounds like you are going very light based on that mix. White wash costs a bit more, and water based poly costs a bit more. Do you have any before and after I hope this makes sense. So, when you do this, have them mix the stain before and test and just apply 1 coat. Tara – For darker gray, we generally just do Duraseal ebony + bona white…we just use less white. I hope that helps. Oak floors are also easy to stain. We generally start darker and then cut in more white until we find the right ratio for the customer. I will ask my contractor which products he used. Also, it really isnât worth spending money on an exotic hardwood to stain gray when you can purchase domestic woods(like Oak) for a fraction of the cost and allocate that towards staining your floors gray. If it’s prefinished wood, you can just go with the big brand names from the US. We are installing the floors and staining this week. But, it might work if the person wants to go very dark gray. But really want what we choose to hide the red in the oak. However, with a custom blend, you MUST have enough to start and finish. (These mismatched species were installed by a previous contractor but it’s a great illustration to show the difference). I really am just looking for the colors that are best to start with. And, so glad it’s turned out so well. Yes, it would be a mix for sure, but it seems to me that a good contractor should be able to do this well with careful measuring. Classic Grey Stain by Minwax was one of my favorite gray stains that I tested. You should not need to bleach white oak at all (and it damages the floor, not to mention what it might do to the walnut). Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated! The right oak is on top and the white oak on the bottom. I am concerned about bleaching my floors because the wood samples I saw that were bleached looked very damaged similar to bad hair dye job. Thank you! i want to thank you for your blog . It came out like paint to me! When it comes to water borne poly, there is no dispute, Bona Traffic HD is the best in the market place. One of the many reasons gray has become so popular is because of the many, many options of staining a floor gray. The one I sent: https://www.amazon.com/Dura-Seal-Penetrating-Finish-Quick/dp/B002EDRXW4, On your page: All the designers were raving about this beautiful gray hardwood. It weakens it. And, you might also test with true black. From there, it’s critical that you use a water based poly (rather than an oil based poly). This could look different as the species may be different. Note: if they are different species, they will never match. In this scenario, how would one protect the inlaid walnut from the bleach since there is oak, which would need to be bleached, on either side? For a brown, you’re going to need to test. We usually use Country White. The much bigger challenge was finding and experimenting to find the right color combo for this decorator. Rubio Monocoat Fumed- reacts with the Tannic Acid in Hardwood causing the flooring to turn gray. Take Samples Home. Thank you so much. It might be a tad tricky though due to the oils found in most exotic woods so I’m not sure how it would turn out. It’s an up and coming trend. I would guess that it would be slightly easier on American Walnut than Brazilian walnut, but that is simply speculation. They will generally use a stand item (could even be a measuring cup) and fill it up 5 times for white and 1 time for ebony (or whatever the ratio is). Rubio Monocoat Fumed- reacts with the Tannic Acid in Hardwood causing the flooring to turn gray. I’m sure durability would be better but seems fine. How long does it take to sand and refinish hardwood floors? Higher end homeowners in Westchester keep requesting gray hardwood floors. If you wanted a very light gray you can mix Durasealâs Country White with Ebony using more Country White and vice versa if you want to achieve a dark gray. Weâve been getting more and more requests to stain hardwood floors gray. We are building a new home, and just want a gray undertone to the floors, but not a full blown gray. Furthermore, the floors aren’t protected from water (or pet accidents). oh and he’s using LastnLast water poly. Anyway, thanks! The other way is to use a stain or wood dye, which is a liquid (usually water or solvent based) that contains a pigment which soaks into the wood. and, it will cost you more. We would know what the results of Brazilian hardwood floors stained to grey would look like. Hi! It just seems to be the way the woods absorb the stain and their pores. 3:1 ratio of ebony to white) and then keep adding ebony and brown to get the right mix. It’s always more challenging to do grey on red oak, especially light gray. LC – Sorry about the delay. Do you need a local flooring contractor? It will be a bit lighter/more orange/less red (I hope that makes sense). Stain should be consistent and applied in strips to avoid any cross-grain color-variant lines. The other issue you may be having is the ingredients being used. I am hoping for a medium (or even light) brown with a touch of gray to pick up the bleached part of the cabs. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. These cookies do not store any personal information. Where do you live? My contractor has shown me several samples but not of duraseal ebony or bona white. As I mentioned it’s iffy…not sure how well the bleach will drown out the red. I know this is strictly an opinion question, so bare with me. Joe – Yes, that would look nice. We have found doing an ebony/white mix works best and/or mixing in some true black. Again, your help was invaluable. In general, their gray mixes are very liquidity. Claudia – It depends what you mean by dark brown hardwood floors. He went the route of 2x coats of white followed by 1x coat of grey staining which turned out beautifully! Sand 80/100 grit Yes, I agree it’s a bit of challenge. I applied the samples and am going with the 3:1 as I have red oak and the dark looked better like you described. You can read my full disclosure at the bottom of the page. Hardwood supplies – e.g. Tina – Oh gosh, it sounds like you may have hired an inexperienced contractor. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. Spread the grey wash across the wood in the direction of the grain, just as you did with the stain. I would expect it to come out pink and it’s not something I would recommend at all. intel to my gc’s flooring guy and he has suggested trying bona gray and a duraseal medium/dark for the new/existing red oak. Waterborne Polyurethanes are opaque in color and then it dries clear. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. I am in the process of refinishing and staining my Brazilian walnut floors. Apply final coat. Please help as I need to stain in a few days. I would mix duraseal ebony + Bona white until you get the right ratio for the color you like. I suppose it’s possible and it would be darker gray. I am hoping you might have a “recipe” suggestion for me. Apply first coat of poly. Older floors typically have spacing, nail and pin holes, discoloration, etc. Gregory – Yes, I would probably mix duraseal ebony and bona white for the gray and just mix to taste. Dark Gray. Apply the white wash to the wood ⦠felt pads, vent covers, Hardwood supplies e.g. I guess there are 2 different distributors selling it on Amazon. I’m down to do another coat but it seems fine and I hate to have to buy another $130 gallon when I would only need half of it. You should only have 1 coat of stain, not 2. I recommend them as they are good products. It looks great, dries quickly, and doesn’t amberize. Applying a stain to hardwood floors is a great way to give them beautiful color and tone. I read through about 2 years worth of comments, and decided I needed to ask questions, that might be answered, but I’m running short of time, being that I need to have stain on site tomorrow. Oil based polyurethane is tinted a yellow tone and it tends to amber more over time. What tbar tools or applicator pads are recommended? This is what you need to do to get gray. on Amazon…it may be hard for you to find duraseal locally…not sure) or offer to pay him for the additional cans. So, if you do matte on 1st coat and feel it’s too matte, then switch to satin for coats 2 and 3 (or vice versa). It’s the top coat that will give it the final sheen. PS: If you want to test a section with bleach, you might see if there is a closet you can do it in, or under refrigerator or something…i.e. Our contractors have put down white oak and have created some samples. It just lasts longer than traditional Bona and other water based polyurethanes. We’re planning to get rid of the living room carpet next Spring and I would love to go with grey – but I’m not sure it would look good with birch doors and window trim. BTW, if you do 7 parts ebony to 1 part white, it will pretty much look like ebony. Every place I ask says its not from China or they say it is but that the regulations have changed and it’s safe. We did some test squares mixing duraseal country white and classic grey in different parts, but there always seemed to be some yellow undertones coming through. 3 parts white to 1 ebony…or 5 to 1. I have a rather large area to cover which will take several quantities of ebony and white to cover (i.e gallons, or whatever). Wipe away any excess stain. No, I don’t have any pictures. To test, they generally just use the caps for the stain to measure. ? I’m having my brand new red oak floor stain in a few days. Do I do a light sand on the stain before my first coat of poly? HOWEVER, I don’t know what you mean by “redwood” floors. It will probably take a while to experiment with this if you haven’t done it before. Some prefer lighter, some prefer darker and some prefer somewhere in between. i used the bona grey since it works well with the bona traffic hd . I think white oak is a good option. But opting out of some of these cookies may have an effect on your browsing experience. Marte – Thank you so much. Instead, create a custom blend of white and ebony. We strongly recommend Bona Traffic HD poly for this effect (see below on where to buy). Weathered Gray Premium Fast Dry Interior Wood Stain (2-Pack) provides high quality color in 1 coat to enhance the natural beauty of interior wood surfaces. We are going to install white oak flooring and want a natural wood look with no staining or amberizing. Hardwood that has just been installed will not have any old finish that can have an affect on the way the gray stain is taken by the wood. If you can’t tell from the surface, see if there is a grate or register in the floor that you can lift up and then view the profile of the wood. Plus, you would probably need to use Bona Traffic on them. I was asking what tool do you use to apply the stain and poly? The gray washes are way too thin and waterery and hence the yellow from the white oak is coming through. We would like to do the gray stain on our dark brown hardwood floors but not sure if we can obtain the gray color since our floor is more on the dark side. Also, I would like my finish to have cool toned undertones, nothing warm or red and I don’t want it to be dark.
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